Thursley Common Fire – Update

The fire is largely under control but it is expected that it will take at least another day before it is extinguished. However with warm weather and breezes this could change. Roads are still currently closed and in addition there is no access to Thursley so please avoid this area if in a car.


The main message remains as before – please stay off the common for the foreseeable future …. do not go anywhere near the nature reserve/boardwalks or the area where the fire spread.


Following many comments on the village Facebook page the Parish Council is looking into a fundraising option which it hopes to be able to update residents on soon. Elstead PC and Thursley PC will be working closely together to ensure that there is a co-ordinated approach in managing all offers of help as well as ensuring that the emergency services are thanked for their incredible work over the weekend in such challenging circumstances.

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Fire on Thursley Common / Elstead Moat

Update from Elstead Parish Council re the fire. The Parish Council is continuing to liaise with fire crews, police and local councils (WBC and SCC). The police have advised that more houses will need to be evacuated today and The Pavilion has been reopened to house these evacuees at the request of the police. The PC will be on hand at The Pavilion to provide support and refreshments for anyone asked to leave their home.


The PC has been in regular contact with the emergency services since the fire broke out. We have offered to provide fire and police crews with refreshments (and were set up to do this last night) but we have been told that they provide their own refreshment facilities.
Last night 14 houses were evacuated and the PC, David and Jenny Else and Jo Mukabaa supported one household until they were able to be rehoused last evening.


We will try and update you on the status of the fire as and when we can but we ask all residents and visitors linked to this facebook page…… Please do not go on to the common to see the fire – please kindly stay away. This is a highly volatile situation and we need to let the emergency crews do their work without having to worry for human safety. Thank you.


And finally please remember that the road running along past the moat is completely closed and there is NO access. Anyone wishing to go to Thursley, Churt and beyond and who would usually use that route please pick the A3 up from Milford junction. Thank you. 

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Village Signpost – Vote Now!

The Parish Council has commissioned a sign making company to replace the directional sign on the Village Green.  The Parish Council has opted for a metal sign as it will be sturdier than the previous wooden option.    The sign that the Parish Council has commissioned is available in two colour options: black background with white writing or white background with black writing.   We would like residents to vote on which sign colour option they would prefer.

You can see examples of the posts, and cast your vote here.

The vote will close at 6pm on Monday 18th May.  

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DROP IN NHP ZOOM

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A reminder that there will be a ‘drop in’ zoom session on Monday 4th May, 8-9pm if anyone has any questions regarding the draft neighbourhood plan. Please feel free to log on anytime between 8-9pm and one of the team will be available to answer your questions. You don’t have to stay for the hour just log on when you are free. The zoom meeting details are below. Don’t forget we really need to have everyone’s feedback on the plan – please visit http://www.elsteadvillage.co.uk/neighbourhood-plan to read the draft plan and provide your comments via the Surveymonkey link. Deadline for feedback is Friday 8th May. Don’t hesitate to contact the clerk on elsteadpc.clerk@gmail.com if you have any questions and can’t make either zoom session. There are a limited number of hard copies of the plan that can be delivered safely if needed – please contact the clerk. Thank you.

4th May 2020. 8-9pm

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Please help Us!

We need EVERYONE to support our Neighbourhood Plan, so that OUR COMMUNITY has the strongest chance of ensuring that the right development takes place in Elstead and Weyburn.      Elstead and Weyburn has been asked to provide a minimum of 160 new houses of which just over 100 have either been built or received planning permission.   Our plan identifies the sites for the remaining 60 or so houses that we need to build, sites which have been chosen on the basis of the views expressed by parishioners.  The more support we can get for our Plan, the better our chances of ‘fending off speculative developers looking to build even more houses on the village’s green spaces (eg Bonfire Hill).   

We know from YOUR FEEDBACK over the last couple of years that Bonfire Hill is valued as a Local Green Space, residents don’t want Elstead to merge into Peper Harow and nor do residents want all new development to be built along Hookley Lane.  

For these reasons we propose to designate Bonfire Hill as a Local Green Space, the land between the village and Weyburn/Tanshire as a Green Gap and we have selected an additional development site which is closer to the village centre and its’ services and utilises previously developed land thus reducing the pressure on Hookley Lane. 

Please visit  http://www.elsteadvillage.co.uk/neighbourhood-plan to read the draft Plan and provide your comments via the Surveymonkey link.  For residents preferring to read a hard copy of the plan we have a limited number that can be dropped off to people (safely) – first come first served!

The steering group will be holding two informal “drop in’ Zoom meetings on Tuesday 28th April (1-2pm)(meeting details below) and Monday 4th May (8-9pm) (meeting details below).  These sessions may be joined either online or via telephone.  Residents are welcome to “Drop in” at any time during the hour and members of the steering group will be available to answer any questions.   Alternatively residents can email the clerk at elsteadpc.clerk@gmail.com with any questions and we will respond to you directly.

We understand that residents have other concerns aside from development.  Our plan provides a number of policies around the environment, employment, transport, recreation and infrastructure.  And, don’t forget that once plans are adopted NHP areas will receive a higher level of CIL (community infrastructure levy – essentially a building tax) on all new houses built.

In order to ensure everyone has had plenty of time to respond we have extended the NHP deadline.  Please note the deadline for feedback is now Friday 8th May.

Thank you.

28th April 2020. 1-2pm

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PC Meeting – 20th April

The PC holds a monthly meeting.  As a result of social distancing, legislation has been passed in order to allow local government meetings to happen virtually via video conferencing platforms as otherwise the PC would be unable to meet.  Residents will be aware that we are currently consulting on our draft neighbourhood plan.  The draft plan highlights three sites that the steering group are proposing for development.  Victoria Asset Management (VAM) have asked to make a presentation in response to the latest draft of the NHP.   The NHP consultation was due to end on 22nd April (we have now extended this by 2 weeks to run to 6th May) which is why VAM are presenting at the April PC meeting.

Some parishioners have expressed concern that this presentation is being held at this time and not at a meeting where all interested members of the public are able physically to attend. The Parish Council appreciates these concerns. It does, however, feel that these proposals should be made public as soon as practicable, if only to ensure that parishioners, and in particular anyone who might be significantly affected by them (eg prospective purchasers of the new properties at Water Meadow Place), know of their existence. 

The facilitation of the presentation implies neither support nor objection on the part of the Parish Council for the proposals, but it does provide an early opportunity for important questions to be raised and responses challenged.  Residents are welcome to attend the meeting as they would be under non social distancing rules.  Should you wish to attend the meeting please contact the clerk at elsteadpc.clerk@gmail who will share the meeting code and instructions.  Anyone unable to attend may submit their question to the clerk who will ask it on their behalf.  A list of questions and answers will be publicised after the meeting.

The Parish Council would also be happy to receive any comments or representations subsequent to Monday 20th’s meeting, which will be considered in the context of the review of the draft NHP.

Residents should note that this an initial presentation (in response to the draft nhp) and the PC will point out to VAM that if they wish to pursue their proposals further we would expect them to arrange for a full public consultation process to be held in the village as soon as the Covid 19 restrictions permit.

The PC has successfully held a few meetings via video conferencing including a planning meeting earlier in the week which was attended by a number of residents and the format worked well.  Zoom may be accessed via computer or mobile.  The PC does not monitor Facebook during the day so any queries  are best addressed directly to the clerk at elsteadpc.clerk@gmail.com who will then reply and post on facebook if necessary. 

The agenda and VAM presentation can be found on the meetings page of the PC section of this website.

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Update from Voluntary Action SW Surrey

Dear Colleagues,

Following the circulation of our weekly newsletter yesterday, some updates have been made to the article about Citizens Advice Waverley. Please see this information below and contact them for further details.

If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact us.

Best wishes, take care and have a lovely weekend.

The team at VASWS. Coronavirus Crisis: Citizens Advice Waverley – Working Together We Can Win
Please see a message below from Citizens Advice Waverley:



“Coronavirus has made an unprecedented impact on people’s lives, Yet, in these most challenging of times, the emergence of community support groups has been a shining light.

In addition to the fantastic work that your group is doing, Citizens Advice Waverley is here to help people in your community – whoever they are and whatever their problem.

How we help:

If people in your community have been affected, our Advisers can provide advice about a range of issues:

 Employment

 Claiming benefits

 Paying your bills

 Housing problems

 Relationship breakdowns.

In addition, our The South West Surrey Domestic Abuse Outreach Team is continuing to help during this period. Domestic Abuse is any incident or pattern of incidents of controlling, coercive, threatening behaviour, violence or abuse between those aged 16-years-old or over who are, or have been, intimate partners or family members regardless of gender or sexuality.

Contact us at Citizens Advice Waverley

Although our offices are closed at the moment, your community can contact our team of more than 60 home-based Advisors:

• Email – for a fast response, please complete our online form at: Citizens Advice Waverley email form – https://waverleycab.org.uk/enquiry-form/

• Phone – if you need to speak with an Adviser, call our Adviceline: 0344 848 7969

Our advice is FREE and INDEPENDENT.

Contact our Domestic Abuse Team

The South West Surrey Domestic Abuse Outreach Team is continuing to provide support during this period. Our Domestic Abuse Team includes qualified Independent Domestic Violence Advisers who provide practical advice and emotional support. We will always listen, support and believe. Call us on 01483 898884 (Mon-Fri 9-4pm) or email swr@swsda.org.uk

Online support:

Your community can also access a huge amount of online self-help material:

• Citizens Advice Waverley website – https://waverleycab.org.uk/coronavirus-crisis/

• Citizens Advice Waverley Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/WaverleyCAB/

Twitter – https://twitter.com/WaverleyCAB

• National Citizens Advice information site: Coronavirus: What it Means for You – https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/coronavirus-what-it-means-for-you/

• Advice on the most popular topics relating to the impact of Coronavirus- https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/coronavirus-if-your-employer-has-told-you-not-to-work/

o If your employer has told you not to work -https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/coronavirus-if-your-employer-has-told-you-not-to-work/

o Check what benefits you can get – https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/coronavirus-check-what-benefits-you-can-get/

o If you can’t pay your bills –

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/if-you-cant-pay-your-bills-because-of-coronavirus/

o If you’re self-employed –

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/coronavirus-if-youre-self-employed/

My request

Please can I ask you to spread the word to your community group – a social post or e-mail would be ideal. And if there is any way that we can help your community, do not hesitate to contact me personally at mailto:ceo@waverleycab.cabnet.org.uk

Thank you for your support.

Kind regards and stay safe.

Phil Davies

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Letter from Elstead Parish Council to SCC re Bonfire Hill Drainage Issues

BONFIRE HILL DRAINAGE ISSUES – PLANNING APPLICATION WA/2020/0363 (BONFIRE HILL)

1 I refer to your correspondence with Waverley Borough Council (WBC) in connection with the above planning application. I should explain that I am Chairman of Elstead Parish Council, which has serious concerns about the adverse impact of this proposed development on flood management in the village.

2 In your latest letter you say SCC as the Lead Local Flood Authority has no objection to the application, provided an acceptable SUDS scheme is put in place. I am not sure how familiar you are with the Bonfire Hill site, but I should explain that it is an area of elevated land which dominates the centre of the village of Elstead. It contains numerous springs and many of the names of the surrounding roads (Springfield, Springhill, Springhaven) reflect this characteristic of the land. In wet weather, the springs flow mainly to the north, north-west, and north-east towards the lower lying centre of the village, depositing large amounts of surface water into the quite inadequate ordinary water courses adjacent to the highways.

3 During recent flood events (notably this winter, in 2013/4 and in 2001) the amounts of water coming off Bonfire Hill have led to serious flooding of gardens, roads and on occasion dwellings in the village, in spite of action taken by residents to dispose of the excess. Your colleagues in SCC in highways and in flood control (Steve Lindsey Clark and Ian Fowler) will be very familiar with the issue. One neighbour has reported that in February this year he had to deploy pumps to remove floodwater at the rate of at least 5.6 litres/sec coming from just one of the many springs on Bonfire Hill, over a period of several days.

4 The proposed development would involve the construction of 30 dwellings around the lower slopes to the north, north-west and north-east of the site (ie cutting across the direction of flow of most of the springs). The drainage survey commissioned by the developer has determined that the surface water arising from the land cannot be disposed of using infiltration techniques, so the proposal is that this water (which will inevitably increase as a result of the construction of impermeable surfaces arising from the development) should be released into the foul drainage at a rate not exceeding 4 litres/sec. This is the maximum flow which Thames Water, the foul drainage authority, has agreed to accept.

5 It seems from the documents submitted by the developer and your own comments that no surveys have been carried out of the specific hydrology of the site. The calculations provided by the developer suggest that the amount of surface water to be disposed of is based simply on the area of land on the development site. In fact, the topography of the site and the adjacent land suggests that much of the water coming off the hill arises from the even more elevated land to the south, where the land continues to rise to a peak some 240 metres outside the development site. There is local evidence that the surface water generated during regular flood events is well in excess of the limit of 4 litres/sec. which Thames Water has agreed to accept. If this is indeed the case, it is difficult to see how any SUDS scheme restricted to an outflow into the sewer of 4 litre /sec could possibly cope with the amount of water involved.

6 SCC, as the LLFA, has a duty of care to offer advice to the LPA which will ensure that flood risks are appropriately addressed. SCC is moreover expected to apply due diligence in formulating this advice. Our experience in the village, sadly, is that development schemes have been allowed to proceed without due attention being given to flooding problems, both on the sites concerned and in relation to their effects on neighbouring properties (I refer you to the recent Croft and the Orchard Close developments). In the case of the Bonfire Hill application, there is much local concern that the proposals would lead to serious surface water flooding issue both for the development itself and for properties in the adjacent lower-lying areas. In view of this, I would be grateful if you could answer the following questions:

  • Have you or any other officer of SCC carried out a site inspection of the relevant land or commissioned a hydrological survey of the site in order to assess its specific characteristics?
  • Have you consulted your colleagues in Highways or Flood Management on the application, and, if so, does your advice take account of their views?
  • Are you satisfied that a SUDS scheme based on a maximum flow of 4 litres/sec into the foul sewer would be adequate to cope with the excess surface water during ‘normal’ flood events? If so, on what is this judgment based, given the clear evidence that he flow off the hill is likely to be much greater than this?
  • Where would legal liability rest if in the event of the application being approved both the new dwellings and adjacent properties were to suffer from surface water flooding owing to any inadequacy with the approved SUDS scheme?

7 It is important to have answers to these questions so that the LPA (WBC) can reach an informed view of the adequacy of the measures proposed to deal with flooding issues. It would be helpful to have your response as soon as possible in view of the timetable for consideration of this application.

Yours sincerely

Pat Murphy

Chairman, Elstead Parish Council

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Moat Car Park – Closed

Due to lots of non essential vistors to the MOAT CAR PARK on THURSLEY ROAD, making it difficult for police to enforce current regulations, the car park, in conjunction with NATURAL ENGLAND will be closed from tomorrow.
Please DO NOT travel in your vehicle to the car park or use the THURSLEY ROAD to park on.

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